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Golf coast scheme takes centre stage
POTENTIAL: Land at Hoylake which could be used to turn the town into a five-star resort
POTENTIAL: Land at Hoylake which could be used to turn the town into a five-star resort

WIRRAL Council's plans for a new multi-million pound golf course moved a step closer to reality last week after it was unexpectedly given an international boost at a major property event in France.

Capitalising on the success of the 2006 Open Golf Championship at Hoylake, the council has spent the last few years working on ambitious plans for a brand new golf resort.

Plans for the development were always set to be launched at MIPIM - Marche International des Professionnels d'immobilier - in Cannes, but the council never expected it would receive such a high profile showcase.

Liverpool FC co-owner Tom Hicks was due to headline a conference on the Liverpool stand at MIPIM but cancelled last minute and Jim Wilkie, deputy chief executive of Wirral Council, was drafted in as replacement.

Since delegates had been expecting Hicks to make a rare appearence, the conference was heavily attended by some of the main investors and developers within the international property industry.

From the amount of interest shown towards the scheme after Wilkie made his speech the audience had not been disappointed by Hicks' no-show.

Jim Wilkie, deputy chief executive of Wirral Council, said: "We knew that Wirral's unique sporting history and the worldwide attention that the Open Championship brought would make the golf resort opportunity one that would be of interest to international investors.

"There has already been significant interest both from North America and Europe and we are now confident that we will be able to secure the right investor to take the golf resort forward."

"There has already been significant interest both from North America and Europe"
Jim Wilkie

Wirral council started their search for backers following a favourable technical assessment of the proposed 333 acre site.

The site, which is close to the Royal Liverpool Golf Club in Hoylake, received the approval of the Professional Golfer's Association, along with golf's world rules and development body and Open Championship organiser, the Royal & Ancient.

The area has already proved its ability to host international golfing events.

The 2006 Golf open championship at Hoylake attracted more spectators than any other in English history and was described by Tiger Woods as "one of the greatest ever staged".

A new golf resort would further enhance Wirral's strong reputation as a golfing destination. If the development goes ahead as planned, it will feature a signature golf course, a private clubhouse and five-star hotel with restaurant, health and leisure facilities, conference facilities and deluxe spa.

Mr Wilkie added: "The vision is to create a landmark destination for golf and the council is seeking a developer who is committed to delivering a high quality, world class facility with an international reputation.

"The development of a prestigious golf resort will offer international class sports and hospitality facilities, along with the opportunity to regularly attract a variety of major golf competitions."

11:22am Thursday 20th March 2008

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Posted by: Steve Mac on 12:17pm Thu 20 Mar 08
"The development of a prestigious golf resort will offer international class sports and hospitality facilities,


Here we go, watch the little vultures grab, kick and climb over each other to get a piece of something shiny and new. Of course no attention will be given to the real areas of need, (old buildings left to rot, areas left to degenerate, services cut etc)they've lost their sheen and been thrown out of the playroom.
Posted by: ar1, 991-972 on 1:37pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Hmmmmm

I'm very cynical about all of this - why is Wirral Council apparantly desperate to facilitate a massive land-grab of green belt land and sell off a council assett - the public golf course? All to benefit rich "out of towners"!

I can think of hundreds of better things that the council could be doing with their time (and thus our money)

I wonder who paid for Mr Wilkie's flights to France?
Posted by: bigfoot, Wirral on 3:53pm Thu 20 Mar 08
"I wonder who paid for Mr Wilkie's flights to France?"

We did-the council tax payers and we also paod for the rest of his entourage!!
Posted by: Peter Wilson, Edinburgh on 7:00pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Why are those who comment on here so negative? Don't they want to make Wirral economically buoyant or remain a suburban backwater? Remember Hoylake and West Kirby were both developed as Victorian-Edwardian seaside resorts and both need to be reinvented to bring life and economic activity to their town centres which have seen 40 years of decline.

Oh yes and at least have the guts to put a name t your comments!

From a Hoylake born and bred exile.
Posted by: Dave Rimmer, Wallasey on 9:32pm Thu 20 Mar 08
"Why are the comments so negative" I`ll tell you why Mr Wilson. The contributors know Wirral Council for what they are. At the bottom end of the Council league tables and very few council tax payers have any faith or trust in them to carry out the wishes of the electorate.
Posted by: fat arse, wallasey on 12:17am Fri 21 Mar 08
Peter Wilson wrote:
Why are those who comment on here so negative? Don't they want to make Wirral economically buoyant or remain a suburban backwater? Remember Hoylake and West Kirby were both developed as Victorian-Edwardian seaside resorts and both need to be reinvented to bring life and economic activity to their town centres which have seen 40 years of decline. Oh yes and at least have the guts to put a name t your comments! From a Hoylake born and bred exile.
Because most of us, as Dave says, have very little faith in the council to actually deliver what they promise. Like any good Nu-Labour institution, they make extravagant promises with little in the way of backing it up.

And I must add that I find it difficult to take criticism from somebody who doesn't even live in the Wirral anymore. I dont blame you for leaving, but I think you misunderstand the current siutation in the good Borough.

Most people have some story of how the council have disregarded and failed them time and time again... for example recently a friend in Wallasey applied for parking restrictions on a busy and dangerous stretch of road. Technical Services sent a templated letter saying there hasn't been any accidents... higher priority locations must take priority...not enough money etc.... yet they hadn't even been out to have look at the road!!!!! I'm sure that many other councils are like this, but the problem is that this has eroed the faith of many people in our local goverance. That is why people are rightly sceptical of the alleged "reinvention" of the Wirral.
Posted by: bigfoot, Wirral on 12:08pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Mr Wilson, you are fortunate to live in an area where care charges do not exist,university is free,tolls are non existent for bridges etc.
wirral always promises 'Jam tomorrow' and for some that is true,usually the developers and their cronies. The rest of us are lucky to get dripping. This is an eliteist project which will probably employ low cost workers from Eastern Europe to the exclusion of local people. Ane it will be supported by the golf playing chief officers of the Council.
The reason why some people use nom de plumes is because Wirral is such a close knit authority that thrives on rumour and innuendo some of the commentators are closely connected with various departments or are involved with agencies which contract to the Authority,their PERSONAL opinions could jepordise the relationship. Some people cannot take criticism!!
Posted by: Peter Wilson, Edinburgh on 4:43pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Well, interested to read the comments.

Believe me, I'm no apologist for Wirral Council which has overseen over 3 decades of decline since it came into being in 1974. I never think party politics and local government mix well but I well remember in the early days it was the Conservatives who were in power and they closed everything in sight, the more recent Labour administration seems to have improved things somewhat. It does strike me that at long last Wirral MBC give the appearance of 'getting their act together'. Maybe I'm wrong but there are some clear signs of a strategic approach to re-inventing the borough. As a frequent visitor I will keep my eye on developments.

Oh and why did I leave Wirral where my family has lived for generations, or rather not come back after university? Well, that's a problem that's afflicted Wirral (and Liverpool) for many years - too many of the 'educated professional classes' did not find the career opportunities available due to long term economic decline. Those of my classmates who are still in the borough are in a small minority.

Oh, and don't believe everything you read in the English papers about Scotland. University fees may not be charged but the universities are all short of cash and worried sick that they cannot keep up standards and compete with English universities, 'free personal care' is in reality quite restricted, free bridge tolls are all very well but the Forth Road Bridge is quite literally falling down and has only about 10 years life but there is no decision on building a replacement and the SNP government is facing a huge spending black hole. When the Scottish Government spends money on one thing, it cannot spend it on another so for every upside there is also a downside. Having different priorities is what devolution is a all about so I suggest English based newspapers and politicians get over it, stop stirring things up[ for short term political advantage and don't do the SNP's work for them.
Posted by: Peter Wilson on 12:04am Sat 22 Mar 08
Sometimes viewing from afar can give one a very clear perspective. And frequently revisiting somewhere you know like the back of your hand and whose history has been told you first hand by relatives born as far back as the 1890s is not the same as having seen somewhere on TV. I wouldn't presume to comment authoritatively on somewhere I don't know.

And anyway, why shouldn't people who live elsewhere be entitled to a view? Rightly or wrongly, perceptions of an area are as important as the reality, often more so when it comes to attracting political support, inward investment and those with high earning potential.
Posted by: spm, wirral on 7:16am Sat 22 Mar 08
Steve Mac wrote:
"The development of a prestigious golf resort will offer international class sports and hospitality facilities,
Here we go, watch the little vultures grab, kick and climb over each other to get a piece of something shiny and new. Of course no attention will be given to the real areas of need, (old buildings left to rot, areas left to degenerate, services cut etc)they've lost their sheen and been thrown out of the playroom.
I support you view on this. All this development and WBC didnt even step in to save Wirrals post offices. They lied to us all and all the time they were supporting this useless government. Would anybody think that the running of WBC should be given to Peel holdings, they have a proven track record and could have a committee making sound decisions instead of the rubbish that are screwing the Wirral now. They could never do worse than this lot.
Posted by: spm on 7:51am Sat 22 Mar 08
jezza wrote:
So you come here now and then and that gives you authority to comment on how things are progressing in Wirral? I have seen Edinburgh on the telly,does that mean I know what it looks like? T*t.
Jezza, i think that your comments on who can voice an opinion and to swear at him was a disgrace and uncalled for. Do you think you have the right to shut people up? no you dont and your type never will. A Gentleman from Australia, who went there in 1950 from the wirral made a genuine comment on the restoration of the old pump house on the docks because he used to work there. Are you saying he should not comment. I read and comment when i am away on bussiness from 4000 miles away. I was given that right of free speach by a generation who fought in wars to enable me to comment, not by the likes of you. You should apologise to that man from Edinburgh publicly. You should hang your head in shame.
Posted by: Dave Rimmer, Wallasey on 8:43am Sat 22 Mar 08
SPM...couldn't agree more and hope that Peter Wilson doesn't think that we Wirralians are all tared with the same brush as some of the ignoramuses using this site. However I have to agree that the competence of MBW is in question but I do like SMP`s notion of Peel Holdings running the Borough. Their track record is pretty sound and they are the ones that seem to be wanting to put millions into Birkenheads revival. My only gripe with them is that they could have assisted the historic war ship collection instead of letting Merseytravel get their hand on U534 and cutting her up into pieces. Sorry seem to have wandered off the subject but just trying to point out that everything that MBW touch seems to rub the council tax payers the wrong way.
Posted by: G. Bradley, Derbyshire on 10:52am Sat 22 Mar 08
Could not agree more with the man from Edinburgh you need to move away from the Wirral and return to see how bad it really is
Posted by: Nancy, New York on 12:45pm Sat 22 Mar 08
I was born and raised in Hoylake and wonder what will happen to the people living on the Carr Lane Estate. They are the ones who will have to deal with the extra construction, traffic and people if this project goes ahead. And what about the people who use the Municipal Golf Course and will not be able to join the new elitist one? I think the best plans for this land is to keep it as farmland as it has been for years.
Posted by: Peter Wilson, Edinburgh on 1:22pm Sat 22 Mar 08
The key will be to see the details of the proposal. One of the things about this rather lovely countryside is that Hoylake has its back to it and there is almost no visual (or physical)connction between the town and the countryside beyond the railway. So a good development could bring benefits for residents and attract desperately needed economic activity into the town.

I agree it is important to maintain access to a golf course for the general public. It should also incorporate major envvironmental improvements around the very tatty periphery including the Carr Lane area and Greenbank Road in W Kirby too. The oppportunity should be taken to introduce a network of foot and cycle paths linking the Wirral Way with the North Wirral Country Park and areas must be set aside for the wading birds who use the Lang Fields.

If all this can be got rigt and a high quality hotel/conference complex built then it could do a lot for the regeneration of the Hoylake area and the borough as a whole.

Paridoxically the green belt fields will probably be safer from housing development than if retained as farm land. The Royal Liverpool and Hoylake dunes would have been built on decades ago if it wasn't for golf.

Having said all that, I'd be sad to see the end of New Hall Farm, as a child I used to love going to watch the cows at milking time and used to buy hay for my guinea pigs, hamsters, gerbils, etc! I also discovered that I was never going to be a golfer as a teenager on the windswept 'muni'!
Posted by: Dante, West Kirby on 1:01pm Sun 23 Mar 08
Dear Peter, All this is quite exciting. Who would have imagined that such projects could generate so much attention world wide, Australia, America, Edinburgh, Derby, as yet nothing from President Mugabe, never mind, still time. First of all let me say, you are entitled to hold whatever opinions you desire, and it goes without saying that you, like everyone else are entitled to express them. After all it's this divergence of views that make life so interesting. Let me say also that I for one will be eternally grateful for any visits, frequent, infrequent, fleeting or otherwise , that you choose to make to this run down suburban backwater called Wirral, in order to keep your educated professional class eye on any developments that may or may not take place. I fear however that progress will be painfully slow, dealing with the uneducated peasants that have remained after the brain drain, due to long term economic decline, makes everything so very frustrating. Though having said that, quite a few of my acquaintances who stayed around have managed to carve out many a successful career, so perhaps you and your contemporaries departed because the competition was too strong. It is a very interesting idea though, this leave, reside elsewhere, come back, see things more clearly. If a priority were given to that sort of input it would certainly eliminate any local negative objections to developments. In fact it sometimes appears that so little regard is paid to local opinions that such a situation already exists. Still I suppose all ideas are welcome. I personally don't really have any strong feelings on what happens in the rest of Wirral, so long as it doesn't impact on West Kirby. Apart from some cosmetic tidying up, a lick of paint, I like it the way it is, a small Victorian-Edwardian seaside town, as indeed do the numerous visitors that arrive throughout the year. Which I suppose goes to show, change isn't everything. Yours Dante
Posted by: bigfoot, Wirral on  Mon 24 Mar 08
Mr Wilson if you say the Scottish Parlement is running on hard times who is funding Edinburghs tram scheme? At least you're getting one!
Posted by: jezza on 6:21pm Mon 24 Mar 08
spm,free speech? That's a good one. Or are there boundaries for the "likes of me"? Why don't you lobby for the Irish to have a say on what goes on in the Wirral,you know,people like you make me sick,"I was given the right by people who fought in wars...blah blah" What? They fought just for you did they?
Posted by: Peter Wilson, Today I'm in Lancashire on 6:38pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Further comment is clearly pointless!
Posted by: jezza on 4:11pm Tue 25 Mar 08
It's all pointless!
Posted by: Phil, Wallasey on 11:04pm Sat 29 Mar 08
How many more golf courses do we need on the Wirral? Aren't there enough already? I'm not against rejuvenation on the Wirral but not at the expense of, the projected view, turning the Wirral into some golf haven for the elitist minority. I agree with a lot of the so-called 'negative' responses here Mr. Wilson as the land could definitely be put to better use than wasting millions on yet ANOTHER golf course and resort. Build a theme park or an indoor resort like Centre Parks or simply build affordable, decent housing....ANYTHING but a golf course p-l-e-a-s-e.
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